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The deal would not move stage

move runs the stage rules before it changes anything, and a rule it cannot satisfy stops the move with the reason attached. The usual reasons are a missing value, an open review, or a target stage the deal cannot reach from where it is. Satisfy the rule and the same move goes through; there is no override.

Status
Available What this means
Audience
both
In the app
#/sales
Last verified
Product version
6.3.2

The symptom#

You drag a card to another column, or ask the Assistant to move a deal on, and it comes back where it started with a short message naming the rule. Nothing else changed: the value, the review flag and the relationship are exactly as they were, because the rules run before the write rather than after it.

A refusal here is a sentence about one rule, not a stack trace and not a generic failure. If what you are seeing is a spinner, a blank column or a deal that vanished rather than a refusal, that is a different problem — start at A deal is not on the board.

The rules that block a move, commonest first#

RuleHow it readsHow to satisfy it
No value on the dealThe target stage needs a figure and there is noneset_value with the amount in minor units and the currency, then move
The deal is under reviewA commercial question was raised and is still openAnswer it, then clear_review; see Connect would not give a price
The target is not reachable from hereThe stage order does not allow this jumpMove through the intervening stage, or pick the stage you actually mean
The deal is already closedWon and lost are stages, and a closed deal is sitting in oneMove it back explicitly; both moves stay on the timeline
The record is not yours to moveYour session cannot write to that workspace's dealsCheck which audience you are signed in as before assuming a fault

What Connect completed#

  • It resolved the deal, read its current stage, value and review state, and ran the stage rules against the target you asked for.
  • It stopped at the first rule that failed and reported that rule by name, rather than reporting the last one or a summary of all of them.
  • It left every field untouched. A refused move is not a partial move: there is no state where the stage changed but the value did not follow.
  • It recorded the refusal as a decision, with its reason, so 'why did this deal sit in qualification for three weeks' is answerable later.

What Connect did not complete#

  • It did not set the missing value for you. Inventing a deal size to satisfy a rule would defeat the rule.
  • It did not clear the review. A review is a person's open question, and closing it is a person's answer.
  • It did not queue the move to retry. Nothing is waiting; the move happens when you make it again.
  • It did not notify the customer. Stage moves are internal, refused or not.

What you can do#

  1. Read the refusal itself before changing anything. It names one rule.

    Result You fix the thing that is actually blocking, instead of setting a value on a deal that was refused for being under review.

  2. If it is the value: set it in minor units, in the deal's currency.

    Result The pipeline total stops being wrong by the currency's exponent, which is the other bug this field causes.

  3. If it is the review: settle the commercial question on the thread, then clear the review.

    Result The deal moves, and the answer is on the record where the next person will find it.

  4. If it is the stage order: move through the stage you skipped, or reconsider the target.

    Result The pipeline keeps meaning something. A board where any deal can be anywhere is a list with colours.

What an administrator can do, and when to escalate#

Stage rules are workspace behaviour, so an administrator is the person who decides whether a rule is right. If a rule is refusing moves your team makes ten times a week and satisfying it adds nothing, that is a conversation about the rule rather than a fault in the move. An administrator can also confirm what a member may write, which is worth checking before a permission problem is investigated as a rules problem.

Escalate when the refusal names a rule that the deal plainly satisfies — a value that is set, a review that is cleared — and it still refuses after a reload. Bring the deal, the current stage, the target stage and the exact words of the refusal. Do not bring a screenshot of a customer's details when the four facts are enough.

Questions#

Is there a way to force a move past the rules?

No. There is no override flag and no autonomy mode that grants one, because a rule that can be bypassed is a suggestion. Change the rule or satisfy it.

The Assistant said it moved the deal and it did not.

Check the deal's stage rather than the reply. The Assistant reports what the tool returned, and a refusal returned from move should appear in its answer; if the two disagree, the deal's own record and the decision log are the authority.

Can a move be refused for the person rather than the deal?

Yes — a member without permission to write on that workspace's deals sees a refusal that is about the session, not the stage. It reads differently, and the fix is a permission rather than a field.